Very few topics are more controversial in the beekeeping world than “Should I use a queen excluder on my beehive?”
Beekeeping forums and beekeeping-related Facebook pages are battlegrounds with a significant discussion devoted to the subject.
Queen excluders – Yes or No? You either hate them or you love them.
Some are adamant that they are honey excluders. Many beekeepers swear by them.
We have saved you the trouble of wading through hours of argument by compiling the most commonly asked questions about excluders.
A queen excluder is a perforated barrier between the brood chamber and the honey super that prevents the queen from entering and laying eggs.
Brood chambers and honey supers are human inventions and part of modern beekeeping and hive management.
Understanding how queen excluders work and how bees interact with them is the key to their successful use.
When left to do things naturally in a tree or any hollow cavity, bees allow the queen to lay eggs anywhere she pleases. The brood nest is typically oval and positioned at the centre of the colony.
The size of the brood portion of the colony varies depending on the time of year and seasonal conditions. When conditions are ideal, the queen tends to expand her egg-laying into supers and frames intended for honey storage.
Brood in honey supers means extra care is required when harvesting honey, particularly in commercial operations. Excluders assist with colony management by confining the queen to a specific part of the hive.
Wikipedia credits Ukrainian Petro Prokopovych (1775 – 1850) with the invention of the queen excluder. He is also widely recognised as the inventor of the world’s first movable frame beehive, which led to the eventual development of economical commercial beekeeping practices.
Welded metal and plastic queen excluders
Excluders have taken many forms since Petro Prokopovych used the first one.
Modern excluders are usually made from:
All excluders work. Beekeepers need to weigh the advantages and disadvantages of plastic vs metal to decide.
A metal queen excluder
Providing you can afford them, welded wire galvanised or stainless steel queen excluders have been tried and tested over the years. They are the most durable and reliable queen excluders on the market.
Queen excluder gap width can vary between 4.1 and 4.4 mm
Honeybee colonies consist of three types (castes) of bees
Queen excluders exploit the size differences between workers and queen bees.
Typically, the dimensions of the gaps in an excluder are between 4.1 millimetres and 4.4 millimetres.
The thorax of a queen bee is larger than that of a worker bee. Workers can fit through the gaps, while the queen cannot.
In a typical Langstroth hive configuration, the queen is confined below the queen excluder in one or two brood chambers.
A queen (L) & a drone (R) surrounded by workers
The argument for and against excluders will never be settled. Let’s look at the perceived advantages and disadvantages.
Note: While many beekeepers claim that queen excluders reduce worker bee lifespans and decrease honey production, the evidence is anecdotal at best. I recently asked the brain trust of the largest Facebook beekeeping site in the world, Beekeeping Techniques, for links to peer-reviewed scientific papers that supported shorter life span and reduced production, and nothing of substance came to light.
Can you think of any more pros and cons of queen excluders? Let us know in the comments section below.
It is best practice to place a queen excluder on your Flow hive.
Flow hives are no different from any other colony when managing brood.
My personal choice is to use a queen excluder.
Flow recommends that you use an excluder as well.
You can choose not to use a queen excluder between the brood box and flow super if you like.
Not using an excluder means that you run the risk of the queen laying drone brood in the Flow frame cells.
The likelihood of this happening can be minimised by placing an empty (foundationless) frame in the brood chamber and allowing the bees to build their drone comb.
When left to their own devices, bees tend to draw approximately 20% of drone comb naturally, so allowing them to do that decreases the temptation for the queen to lay in the flow frames.
One round of drone brood shouldn’t make much difference to the performance of the flow frames.
The best thing to do is to place a queen excluder between the brood box and the flow super.
Ensuring that you have the queen below the queen excluder is critical.
Make sure that hatched drones can escape through an upper entrance, or they will die in the flow super and clog the queen excluder.
There is no need to clean Flow frames with a round of brood through them. The bees will sort it out.
Excluders can be added whenever you choose to add them.
Beekeepers tend to place a honey super on a single hive when they want to expand.
Note: If you are placing a queen excluder onto a hive to allow brood in honey supers to hatch, workers develop and hatch in 21 days, and drones in 24 days, so you will need to wait at least 24 days before you can remove frames for extraction.
Bees that won’t fill two boxes are frequently over-wintered as a single brood box.
Many of the management practices used by beekeepers are location-specific.
In the northern hemisphere, where winters are long and bitterly cold, it is a common practice for beekeepers to remove queen excluders. This allows the bees to cluster tightly around the honey stores at the top of the hive, where they can consume honey and generate heat.
If the queen excluder were left in place, the queen would be unable to move up with the cluster, and she would die.
Clustering is a survival mechanism that has allowed bees to survive for millions of years.
There would be very few locations in Australia where removal of the excluder is required for winter survival.
Australian beekeepers commonly reduce hives to a brood box and a honey super, which is ample for winter survival. Brood is common in the colony all year round; however, brood rearing is minimal in icy areas.
Beehives not strong enough to cover a brood box and a honey super are frequently reduced to the brood box only.
Queen excluders are frequently blamed when bees don’t immediately start to draw new frames of foundation placed on top of an excluder.
If your colony is not strong enough & there is no nectar flow, they won’t work the new frames. It’s that simple.
Make sure you put a new honey super onto a brood box full of bees with all of the frames drawn out.
You must also ensure that there is a nectar flow.
Bees won’t expand when they don’t have pollen and nectar resources to support them.
Another competent beekeeper’s trick is to remove a couple of frames of honey or brood from the brood box and replace them with frames of foundation from the new honey super.
The brood is placed above the queen excluder in the honey super. Bees will move through the excluder to cover the brood frames and start working on the new frames.
The owner of Mt. Coramba Apiculture, Glenn Locke, has had the beekeeping urge since the early 1980s as a 14-year-old teenager.
The Warwick (QLD) high school agriculture department had a few beehives, and beekeeping was taught as a subject. Glenn’s agriculture teacher, Jim Caird, let him have a nucleus hive, and the addiction started.
The move to the mid-north coast of NSW, particularly the beautiful Orara Valley, means that Glenn now has the space to commence beekeeping again. Glenn has managed beehives in the Orara Valley since 2009.
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thanks for another very informative article MCA 🙏🐝
Thanks Rod
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Another good one Glen. Congratulations.
Thanks Allan.
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Simply explained , great article,always learning
Also good to be able to post a comment without having to write a book(details)
Cheers
Thanks Glen
Thanks Wayne, Pleased you enjoyed the read. Best wishes, Glenn Locke
Hi what about galvanized steel versus stainless steel queen excluder?
Hello Duncan, Thanks for reading my article & commenting. I really doubt that it makes the slightest bit of difference in the big scheme of things. Best wishes, Glenn Locke
Hi, I have a mixture of plastic and metal excluders, and I find that they both work equally well. However I find that the metal ones are much easier to clean at the end of the season than the plastic ones.
I do have a question. What do you think of removing the excluder, when you remove the queen, as part of your swarm control? A new virgin queen will take 30 days to start laying, a lot of honey can be stored in that time.
Hello John, Thanks for reading my article & commenting. I don’t do swarm control that way so I couldn’t really say one way or the other. Thanks Glenn Locke.
inspected my 2 hives yesterday ,no honey , the Queen excluder was 60% blocked with dead bees , inspected 3 weeks ago ,same thing , could there be a problem with the excluder size , colony is weak ,queens ok ,not a lot of brood , no disease .
Hello Dave, your problem is not with the queen excluder. Can I suggest that you find a beekeeper who is experienced to assist you. Best wishes, Glenn Locke.
Hi, I have what I believe is a queen bee excluder. It’s pretty old so I’m not finding any pictures or info. Could I send you a picture, and see if you can help? Thank you in advance.
Hello Sandi, yes that will be OK
My bees refuse to go through the plastic queen excluder and keep filling up the spaces with burr comb I have cleaned the excluder many times to no avail it is only on this one hive so I have removed the excluder it is 3decks high
Hello Chris, thanks for reading my blog & commenting. Without looking at your hive the best suggestion I can make is to buy a good quality stainless steel queen excluder. Or you can just continue the way you are and sort through your hive to remove frames of honey only. Glenn Locke
I am using my hive for pollination, not honey production. So is it necessary to have a queen excluder ?
No it is not necessary